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Board Minutes 09/01 - 0602

Board Minutes 09/00 - 06/02


5 December 2001

Present

Charles Mansour (Chair)

Annabel Lane

John Mitchell

Nick Fellows

Gideon Pretorius

John Hunter

Kamal Khan

Michael Christodoulides.

  1. Apologies
  2. Apologies had been received from:

    Karen Sharpe

    Allan Boardman

    Bill Hawkins

    Archie Watt

    David Spaven

    Derek Oliver

    Joseph Wright

  3. Minutes of the November Chapter Board Meeting
  4. The minutes of the previous meeting were approved, 1. JM 2. NF.

  5. Action Points

All action points from the previous meeting had been completed with the exception of the following which were carried forward: Action

  • Write an article for Datawatch and get another from contact (ongoing) ALL
  • Contact Northern and Midland Chapters re the index of presentations to invite them to contribute CM
  • Write to computer weekly and Computing to get free publicity CM
  • Program of chargeable events would be put together a year in advance CM
  • Pass data protection registration papers to be passed to JW CM
  • Contact Brain Shorten about participation in at the security forum event KS
  1. Events
  2. Chargeable Event

    CM reported that the January event was postponed until later in the year.

    DO/JM to arrange new date (April suggested to avoid EuroCACS and Easter) and to schedule a new speaker in lieu of SB.

    Chapter Meetings

    All was set for the December, Ian Henderson Fraud session.

    The Events Sub-Committee was tasked with arranging an alternate speaker for June (auditing desk-tops) in lieu of SB.

  3. Finance
  4. AW paper for the 11 months to November 2001 was noted.

    AW to arrange for audit committee and get external auditors.

  5. CISA
  6. MC’s report was received. Thanks were passed to GP for arranging the accommodation booking. The proposed pricing (£380 members, £450 non-members) was accepted, as was the proposal to acquire the ISACA exam materials ($240).

    MC to have dialogue with NW to move forward with advertising.

    MC reported that Rolling Meadows had agreed to provide matched funding for CISA marketing. Thanks were passed to MC for his efforts.

    MC to put together a plan for the marketing of CISA.

  7. Publication/Website
  8. AB and AL November reports were noted.

    AL reported that the closing date for Datawatch 51 was 7 December but there was a shortage of technical articles. A copy extension could be arranged for any articles in preparation. The meeting was reminded of the urgent need for quality articles and the need for Board members to supply articles to the published rota.

    It was agreed that a call for articles be made at all Chapter meetings and AB would put an invitation on the website which would feature the availability of CPE hours for authors.

  9. Academic Relations
  10. JM reported that it was now up to the individual Chapters to approach Universities in their areas. JM would find the relevant person to approach at each university and sent the information pack to them.

  11. Membership
  12. KK’s November report was noted. KK was thanked for his successful application to Rolling Meadows for matching funding for marketing ISACA. A number of contacts were volunteered for KK to follow up in the sectors where the Chapter is under-represented.

    Concerns were expressed that there was scope for abuse of the ‘one guest free’ offer at Chapter meetings as reservations for two non-members who were recruitment agency staff had been received.

    It was agreed that KK should arrange for the second non-member to be invoiced and attention drawn that agency recruitment activity should not form part of the professional networking at Chapter events.

  13. Research
  14. Nothing to report.

  15. Standards
  16. It was noted that JW had commented on three standards received from ISACA for review by the end of December.

  17. Any Other Business
  18. Brussels PCM Meeting report

    JM attended on behalf of KS. Although the attendance was around a dozen, this being a Chapter funded event, the issues covered were significant. EUR 85,000 had been secured to fund EuroCACS in Budapest. The EU is an important source of potential funds but also has an important committee on auditing in the EU. In order to get an effective lobby for the interests of ISACA members, a means of funding has to be established without infringing the Association’s rules.

    JM to draft a paper for the January Board proposing that EU chapters (and those of associated and up-coming member countries) would contribute EUR 5 per member into a lobby fund.

    JM reported that the availability of the CISM paper in 2002 was still a possibility.

    The possible spin-off of the IT Governance Institute was a cause for concern, its development having been funded by the Association.

    EuroCACS 2003 was to be hosted by Amsterdam. There was the possibility of London hosting the 2004 event though the issue of an affordable, well-situated venue remained.

    Steve Bailey

    It was reported that Steve Bailey had resigned from the Board and was no longer able to take on speaking engagements for the Chapter.

    The meeting wished to record a formal acknowledgement of the contribution that Steve had made to the Chapter and its events.

  19. Next Meeting

6 p.m. on Wednesday 9 January at a location to be notified by KS.

AL apologised that she would not be able to attend.

The meeting closed at 7.30.

7 November 2001

Present

  • Karen Sharpe(Chair)
  • Archie Watt
  • John Mitchell
  • Nick Fellows
  • Gideon Pretorius
  • Joseph Wright.
Apologies

    Apologies had been received from:

  • Allan Boardman
  • Bill Hawkins
  • Charles Mansour
  • David Spaven
  • Derek Oliver
  • John Hunter
  • Kamal Khan
  • Michael Christodoulides.
  1. Minutes of the September Chapter Board Meeting

    The minutes of the previous meeting were approved, 1. AW 2. JM.

  1. Action Points

All action points from the previous meeting had been completed with the exception of the following; Action

  • Write an article for Datawatch and get another from contact (ongoing) ALL
  • Respond to questionnaire it as soon as possible ALL
  1. Events
  2. Chargeble Event

    Arrangements for the January chargeable event were discussed. It was agreed that all had been arranged except that Steve Bailey had failed to provide his information for the publicity material.

    KS was to contact Steve Bailey to complete publicity meeting for the Chargeable event.

    CISA Review Course

    MC’s report on and recommendation on the invitation to tender process was received. JM withdrew from the meeting.

    One response had been received to the invitation to tender for the CISA review course from JM. The proposal was discussed and its was agreed that JM possessed the necessary experience to run the course, and that the charging rate represented good value for money.

    MC’s proposal was agreed. 1 AW 2. JW.

    A debate ensued on when the applications for the course should close it was agreed that this would be at the end of April, because that was after the date when candidates had to register for the course and would thus be in a position to commit to a course.

    NW was to revamp the CISA review course publicity accordingly.

    November Chapter Meeting

    KS was not available to do the rota..

    JM was to substitute for KS at the November Chapter Meeting.

    KS was remind the presenter to come to the November Chapter Meeting.

    JM was to get the presenter to produced text in time for next week’s mailshot.

  3. Finance
  4. AW presented the accounts for October

    There were accruals for ABM Amro and for the CISA review course. Mailshot was expected to show a deficit. Postage and admin were within budget. There might be a small surplus this year. The chapter printer was old and might need replacing.

    KS has checked the rate of wage rate inflation and it was agreed that and increase of 5% would be given to NW backdated to 1st July.

  5. Academic Relations
  6. JM reported on the progress he had made with this. ISACA’s standard material was not very good. He was to present to City University in the new year. Grenwich and Royal Holloway were in progress.

    Academics had to apply to Rolling Meadows to become a chapter member, but they were exempt from payment.

    AW left the meeting.

  7. CISA
  8. MC’s report was received. It was noted that KK has applied for a grant from Rolling Meadows for marketing.

  9. Publication/Website
  10. Unusually there was no report from AL.

  11. Membership
  12. KK’s report was received. It was noted that the presentation of membership information and statistics required much maintenance.

  13. Research
  14. A grant had been applied for from Rolling Meadows.

  15. External Relationships
  16. Derek Oliver’s report was received. A discussion ensured on whether MIS’s CISA course was in competition with the Chapter’s own CISA revision course. It was noted that the former was a course to present the CISA material while the latter was a revision course for those who had already studied it.

  17. Standards
  18. JW reported that three standards had been received from ISACA for review by the end of December.

    JW was to review the three ISACA standards.

  19. Any Other Business
  20. KS wanted to invite Brain Shorten to join the board.

    It was agreed that the event organised by the security forum would be endorsed by the chapter and that the Chapter would participate.

    KS was to contact Brain Shorten about participation in at the security forum event.

    Insurance

    A debate ensued as to whether the chapter needed insurance. It was pointed out that the chapter met on premises owned by other organisations who had there own public liability insurance so that the chapter did not need such insurance itself. If, during one of its meetings, a member caused damage on these premises the member him or herself would be liable. The question was raise what happened if a speaker said something libellous or defamatory at a Chapter Meeting. It was pointed out that the presenter member would be associated with his own organisations. Accordingly it was resolved that the Chapter needed no insurance cover.

  21. Next Meeting

6 p.m. on Wednesday 6 December at a location to be notified by KS. The meeting closed at 7.00.


3 October 2001

Present

  • Karen Sharpe(Chair)
  • Archie Watt
  • Allan Boardman
  • Kamal Khan
  • Charles Mansour
  • John Mitchell
  • Joseph Wright.
  • Kamal Khan
  • Michael Christodoulides (joined 6.20)
  • Joe Wright
Apologies

    Apologies had been received from:

  • Annabel Lane
  • Nick Fellows
  • Bill Hawkins.
  • Gideon Pretorius
  • David Spaven
  1. Minutes of the September Chapter Board Meeting

    The minutes of the previous meeting were approved, 1. CM 2. AB.

  1. Action Points

All action points from the previous meeting had been completed with the exception of the following; Action

  • Write an article for Datawatch and get another from contact (ongoing) ALL
  • Contact Northern and Midland Chapters re the index of presentations to invite them to contribute CM
  • Write to computer weekly and Computing to get free publicity CM
  1. Events
  2. CM reported that all was fine for November and Steve Bailey was able to do his session. However, there was a problem with the venue. JM pointed out it was too late to advertise now and suggested we should advertise for, say, January and then seek a venue if bookings were satisfactory.

    AW would put together a pack of supporting information and work out the costs.

    JM was to try and re-arrange the speakers for January.

    NW is to send out publicity provided that information is available from Steve Bailey.

    It was agreed that, in future, chargeable events would be put together a year in advance and that CM would work on this.

    KS was to contact Alison about the response to MIS.

    NW was to distribute the questionnaire by Email and all were to respond to it as soon as possible.

  3. Finance
  4. AW presented the accounts for September. There were accruals for ABM Amro and for the CISA review course. Mailshot was expected to show a deficit. The overall outlook was that income was fixed and costs were rising.

    It was agreed that the donation to Rolling Meadows for research could be approved as it would come out of reserves.

    AW reported that the effect of putting up NW’s rates by 50p per hour would cost the chapter an additional £780p.a while a 5% rise would cost. £580.

    It was agreed that the pay rise would be backdated tom August 2001 and that KS would advise the rate.

  5. Academic Relations
  6. JM reported he had made contacts with 4 universities Royal Holloway, Greenwich, City and Portsmouth and that his contacts were, respectively, Fred Piper, David Chadwick, Rob Melville and George Allan. Of 98 Universities 60 were in the southern region. He was offering to do presentations on ISACA.

  7. CISA
  8. MC presented his report. It had been another successful year for London Chapter CISA exam candidates. The Highlights were:

    London Centre 160 candidates sat the English language version of exam, 125 passed which computes to a 78.1% pass rate (previous year 77.1%). The global pass rate continues to decline 50% this year against 52% in 2000 and 54% in 1999. 1 candidate sat the Korean language version (average group score 61) and 2 candidates sat the Spanish version (average group score 72)

    Of the 17 candidates who attended the CISA Review Workshop he had been notified of 14 who have passed the exam. Of the 125 successful candidates 63 were not previously members of ISACA and have been awarded complimentary membership.

    CISA Candidates strengths were, IS Technical Infrastructure and Operational Practices (average 85.46) IS Disaster Recovery (average 82.90). Closely followed by IS Audit Process (Average 81) and IS Management and Planning (averaged at 79.39). Grouped on the rails were IS Technical Infrastructure, Protection of Information Assets, Business application development etc. and Business Process evaluation/Risk Management – all 77.n each.

    World wide 8,210 candidates sat the exam (6,458 in 2000). London Centre candidates sitting the exam were up from 153 in 2000 to 163 in 2001.

    MC noted that at the end of the report was a "names only" list of CISA 2001 exam passes and that all the lists received excluded individuals that request their exam results not to be released.

    MC was to forward a list of new members to the Membership Officer.

    The ITT for CISA Exam 2002 had gone out and one response had been received. Plan b was to revert to the workshop as last year. MC was congratulated on the good results of those candidates who had attended this years, workshop.

    All were to contact MC by email if they were able and willing to lecture at the weekend workshop.

  9. Publication/Website
  10. AL’s report was read. Work on Datawatch is in hand.

    AB presented a report on website advertisements and noted that the pilot kicked off in Sept 2001 in response to an enquiry from MRK Consulting. Following email exchanges and discussion of the main issues, a decision was taken by the Publications Committee to go ahead on a pilot basis - for ratification at the October Board meeting. The site was now live. The Barclay Simpson relationship turned out to be a non issue as BS was very interested to try this channel and have 5 ads on the website. Rates had been set at £50 per ad per quarter. AB was in negotiations with Howell-Chorley.

    The proposal was ratified.

  11. Membership
  12. KK was to write to the 63 people on the pass list who were not member of the chapter. KK presented a proposal which he had sent by email. To promote increased membership, it was agreed that an existing member could bring in one guest free of charge for a three month trial period.

    The proposal was agreed.

    It was agreed that to control the number of guests the attendance list would be re-instituted at chapter meetings by CM.

  13. Research
  14. The donation to Rolling Meadows was agreed.

  15. Standards
  16. JW reported that no standards had been received from ISACA for review but that he had received an invitation from Rolling Meadows to work on certain standard area which he would accept.

    JW also reported that he had received an invitation to speak at a conference on Corporate Governance which he was unable to accept.

    JW was to pass the invitation on to other chapter members.

  17. Any Other Business
  18. Technical co-operation Group

    KS was to attend the next meeting of this group.

    NCC

    Other chapters have proposed a reciprocal publicity agreement with NCC. It was agreed that London Chapter would back this.

    CPFA/IIA Joint event

    ISACA will get a discount on attendance costs.

    KS was to have a conference call to see if they wanted an ISACA stand at this event.

    Insurance

    NY Chapter has thanked London Chapter for its expressions of sympathy, and raised the question of whether London Chapter needs insurance to cover its members’ liabilities.

    JW to investigate insurance requirements.

    Privacy Policy

    We need to update our data protection registration. Papers to be passed to JW.

    COMPACS Stand

    As part of our mutual publicity agreement we get to put up our stand. However the chapter has not yet been contacted about this.

    MT to investigate the position.

    If we have a stand we need to man it. The date of the event is 17-18th October.

    NW will send a message about this if required.

    MIS Competition

    It was agreed that there would be a full discussion on the advisability of Chapter members participating in similar events at the next meeting.

  19. Next Meeting

6 p.m. on Wednesday 7 November at Deloitte and Touche or another location to be notified by KS. The meeting closed at 7.30.


5 September 2001

Present

  • Karen Sharpe(Chair)
  • Allan Boardman
  • Annabel Lane
  • Charles Mansour
  • Bill Hawkins.
  • Joseph Wright
  • Kamal Khan
  • Michael Christoudolides
  • Nick Fellows.
Apologies

    Apologies had been received from:

  • Archie Watt
  • David Spaven
  • Derek Oliver
  • Gideon Pretorius
  • John Hunter
  • John Mitchell
  • Steve Bailey
  1. Minutes of the June Chapter Board Meeting
  2. The minutes of the previous meeting were approved, subject to amendment 1. CM 2. KK.

  3. Action Points

All action points from the previous meeting had been completed with the exception of the following; Action

  • Write an article for Datawatch and get another from contact (ongoing) ALL
  • Obtain more information from Robertl Bergquist re Eurocacs 2004 for next meeting SB
  • Contact Northern and Midland Chapters re the index of presentations to invite them to contribute CM
  1. Events
  2. It was reported that the September courses had been cancelled due to lack of response and that AW had suggested that more "cutting edge" topics were needed. CM suggested improving advanced publicity of such events. It was agreed that there was still time to publicise the November mailshot.

    KS was to send a copy of events and course to MC who would do the necessary.

    CM was to write to computer weekly and Computing to get free publicity

    CM was to check that the speaker for the December meeting was available and to contact GP to clarify who was going to speak in January.

    It was reported that MIS had agreed to provide two free tickets to their courses in return for members completing a survey questionnaire, the format of which would be agreed in advance by the board. The results would be shared among ISACA members. KS pointed out that MIS were keen to arrange joint events, which would have the effect of making the chapter’s events known to a database of 10,000 clients. However this was contingent on MIS and the chapter coming to a financial agreement. The first step was to agree the format of the questionnaire.

    KS was to contact MIS on the questionnaire. CH was to send questionnaire to Alison at MIS and ask for IT and corporate governance to be included in it.

    There was a discussion of when the results of the survey would be available. The questionnaire would be issued to get responses back by fax for 25th September.

    IT was agreed the CM would attempt to arrange for the information to be available by the next board meeting.

  3. Finance
  4. The treasurers report was discussed. KS reported that AW has indicated that, as there was no formal contract with the supplier of the premises for the September, there are no costs to pay.

    KS to ask AW in which financial year the contribution to COBIT research was to appear.

  5. CISA
  6. MC’s report was submitted. The 2001 results were out.

    It was agreed that MC would contact rolling members for a list of successful candidates and pass it on to AB for display on the chapter web site.

    The text of his draft invitation to tender was discussed and agreed. MC requested guidance as to which organisations were to receive the questionnaire, and it was agreed that these would be, as in the past, the big accounting firms.

  7. Publications
  8. The Board received AL's report. AL pointed out that there was still a shortage or articles in the Datawatch article bank.

    AL would draw up a rota for producing articles and distribute to members of the board.

    The next edition of Datawatch would be the 50th and it would be interesting to include something about the earlier editions of the magazine.

    It was agreed that AL would contact former editors, and that BH would try to find old editions of the magazine held in the Library.

    AL pointed out that her role at work was changing, and hoped that this would not affect the work of the publications committee.

    A discussion on Shirish Misty’s approach to the Chapter ensued, as confusion seemed to have arisen with the administrative arrangements for the distribution of his questionnaire. It was agreed that the questionnaire would be provided that the research resulting from the questionnaire led to an article being written Datawatch. This questionnaire should not be distributed before the MIS questionnaire.

    KS to approve the questionnaire and forward to NW.

  9. Membership
  10. KK’s report was received. There was a discussion of why so few people attaining the CISA qualification joined the Chapter.

    MC agreed to get a list of London CISA passes so that KK could issue a flyer.

  11. SIGS
  12. There was nothing to report. It was agreed that this item would be deleted from the agenda in future.

  13. Library
  14. There was nothing to report. It was agreed that this item would be deleted from the agenda in future.

  15. Research
  16. KK’s report was presented . KK’s suggestion of peer-to-peer being a suitable subject for research was generally approved. KS poined out that DO had identified that there was a new qualification, the Certificate of Information Security Confidence.

  17. 2003 Conference
  18. Nothing to report.

  19. Any Other Business
  20. AB has produced an email note on his approach, which it was agreed would be read for the next Board Meeting.

    Matters emerging from the Awayday were discussed.

    It was noted that NW’s hourly rate had been increased to £7.50 p.h. at the 2000 Away day. It was agreed that it would be preferable to link this rate to a suitable index so that the topic of raising this rate did not recur. It was suggested that a suitable rate might be the salary rises index.

    KS to investigate this possibility and examine the effect on the Chapter’s finances.

    It was noted that, given the Chapters present financial position, the proposed donation to ISACA research might no longer be appropriate.

    KS was to ask AW’s advice in this matter.

    The decision taken at the Awasay to raise the subscription to 180 dollars was ratified by the broad.

    Apologies were received from NF for is absence for the next meeting.

  21. Next Meeting

The next meeting will take place at 6 p.m. on Wednesday 3rd October at the offices of Deloitte and Touche, Stonecutter Street.

 

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